Moe treats your possessions like a brokerage account. Point the camera at an item, a vision model identifies it, a valuation call with web search prices it, the item lands in a stock-style portfolio, and a daily 8am cron re-values everything tracked [C2 50:38]. One tap cross-lists to eBay and Depop through developer APIs and to Facebook Marketplace through a headless browser driving the user's own OAuth session [C2 10:40]. Pricing: 5 free scans, then $9.99/mo, plus 4% of external sales and 8% of native sales.
The app is real and independently verifiable: App Store id 6759468571, seller Market of Everything, Inc., released 2026-08-25, version 1.0 with no App Store version bump since, 191 MB, iOS 15.1+, 4.33 stars from 12 ratings (iTunes lookup, 2026-09-16). It is React Native [C2 11:15], so over-the-air JS updates would not show as App Store versions. Roadmap only, not shipped: item-for-item trading, public profiles, agents that message buyers, Android.
The pitch is that hyper-collectors and "depop girlies" have closets of idle inventory and no patience for eBay's listing flow, so Moe becomes the consumer-casual front end to every marketplace and eventually the exchange itself. The state of play is much earlier: 967 users on the founder's own 2026-09-11 dashboard, $175.00 of lifetime GMV across 5 orders, $20.60 of lifetime fee revenue, about 25 genuinely paying subscribers implied by $249.75 estimated MRR, and an LLM bill of $355.59 over 30 days that exceeds all revenue combined.
Quality signal from inside the room: Daxos partner Jake used the app and it "did hallucinate on a bunch of stuff... would say that it's a different thing than it is" [C2 12:30]. Joseph: not accurate on items, but the UX is "very fast," "pretty enjoyable" [C2 17:27]. Polished wrapper, mediocre recognition on the core function.
| Company | Raised | Rounds / last event | Status and valuation | Now |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Whatnot | $1.521B | 9; Series G $547M, 2026-08-05 | Alive; $20.0B PUBLICLY_DISCLOSED | Headcount 2,126; $8B live GMV in 2025, 5M new listings daily (adjacent.md, 2026-09-15) |
| Vinted | $562.9M | 8; secondary 2026-04-27 | Alive; $9.4B PUBLICLY_DISCLOSED | Headcount 4,525; 2025: EUR 10.8B GMV, EUR 1.1B revenue, EUR 62M net profit. No seller fees at all |
| Poshmark | $480.2M | 8 | EXITED; M&A 2022-11-30 at $1.2B (Naver) | Headcount 2,918; free Smart List AI since Feb 2025 |
| Mercari | $160.8M pre-IPO | 8; IPO 2018-05-15 | PUBLIC; $2.39B PUBLICLY_DISCLOSED | Headcount 1,769; free AI Listing Support since 2024-09-10 on GPT-4o mini |
| Depop | $99.6M | 9 | EXITED; M&A recorded 2026-08-02 at $1.4B (eBay) | Headcount 3,625; free one-photo AI listing since 2024-09-12; US seller fee 0% |
| OfferUp | $381.0M | 8; Series E $120M, 2020-03-30 | Alive; $1.0B ESTIMATED | Headcount 332, a third of its Series E scale. No new capital in 6+ years |
| Xianyu / Idle Fish | Harmonic: no record (Alibaba unit) | n/a | Alive | 217M MAU Jan 2026; AI Camera prices an item from one photo in about 5 seconds, free |
| Company | Funding (Harmonic) | Stage / last event | Headcount | Price and reach |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flyp | $15.8M, 4 rounds | Series A, last priced 2022-05-31 | 16 | Now free: "100% FREE ... Zero Fees" (joinflyp.com, 2026-09-15). Founders were two ex-Mercari marketplace builders |
| Vendoo | $125k, 2 rounds | PRE_SEED; YC W22, 2022-01; $625k ESTIMATED | 39 | $8.99 to $149.99/mo, 10+ marketplaces |
| List Perfectly | $0 | never raised, founded 2016 | 10 | $29 to $99/mo, 10+ marketplaces |
| Crosslist | $0 | never raised, Belgium | 7 | $29.99 to $44.99/mo, 10 marketplaces |
| PrimeLister | $0 | never raised | 4 | 4 marketplaces plus Poshmark automation |
| Closo | $800k, 2 rounds | SEED; last 2025-05-28, $380k | 5 | AI cross-listing service |
| OneShop | $125k, 1 round | YC S21, 2021-06-24; OUT_OF_BUSINESS | 5 | Contested zombie: Harmonic says dead, app updated 2026-09-12 |
| SellHound | $353k | last 2020-08-18; OUT_OF_BUSINESS | 5 | Shell pivoted to B2B product photography |
| Zipsale | $436k | pre-seed, UK; site unreachable | n/a | Likely dead |
| Nifty | Harmonic: no record | n/a | n/a | Both domains dead, quiet shutdown |
The lesson is blunt. The best-funded pure cross-lister ever, with two technical ex-Mercari founders and $15.8M, ended up giving the product away. The survivors never needed capital. No cross-lister has ever reached Series B.
| Company | Funding (Harmonic) | Stage / last event | Status | What it tells you |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| CollX | $28.2M, 7 rounds | Series A $10M, 2025-03-07; $50M ESTIMATED | Alive, headcount 26 | The fundable consumer valuation app. Single vertical with liquid transaction comps. 3M+ users at the Series A |
| Collectr | $0 recorded, 0 rounds | n/a | Alive, headcount 11 | 64,973 iOS ratings, top TCG portfolio app, on no venture money at all |
| Alt | $346.0M, 4 rounds | Series B; last 2025-07-18 DEBT | Alive, headcount 79 | The financialized portfolio story needs a vault, custody and lending, and is still a 79-person niche |
| Sella | $3.0M, 1 round | SEED, 2022-08-09 | Alive, headcount 9 | Humans sell your stuff for a flat fee. 2 to 3 week backlog; no follow-on in 4 years |
| Beni | $7.1M, 6 rounds | last seed tranche $815k, 2026-03-24 | Alive, headcount 39 | Buyer-side, technical CTO, still seed-stage five years in; founder-CEO stepped down |
| Croissant | $52.0M | last round 2026-02 | Alive | "Your stuff has resale value" funded at scale, anchored at retail checkout, not at a camera |
| Encore (buyencore.com) | $1.195M, 2 rounds | SEED 2024-06-17; $6M ESTIMATED; OUT_OF_BUSINESS | Dead, site 503 | AI resale automation with institutional cover, dead inside about 18 months. The modal outcome at Moe's stage |
| SellRaze | $500k, 2 rounds | PRE_SEED, last 2025-09-01; $2.0M ESTIMATED | Alive, headcount 11 | The identical wedge. Y Combinator and Fusen World. The live price benchmark for Moe's ask |
| Company | Funding (Harmonic) | What it was | Death evidence |
|---|---|---|---|
| Lovd | $4.1M (YC, Ludlow, Fuel) | Automated used-goods selling | OUT_OF_BUSINESS |
| Gone | $3.8M (Techstars, SVB) | Full-service sell-from-home | OUT_OF_BUSINESS, leftover landing page |
| Gemr | $7.4M Series A (2015) | Collectibles social with collection values | Empty title page, headcount 2 |
| Encore (luxury) | $1.195M (UChicago Polsky) | AI luxury resale automation | OUT_OF_BUSINESS, site 503 |
| Loma | $1.4M pre-seed | Resale search | Domain now serves a Turkish casino page |
| Zipsale | $436k | UK cross-lister | Site unreachable, last round 2021 |
| SellHound | $353k | AI photo-to-listing | OUT_OF_BUSINESS, shell sells B2B photography |
| MAGPIE | $150k | Collectible inventory automation | ACQUIRED_OR_MERGED, quiet |
| OneShop | $125k (YC S21) | Reseller automation | Harmonic OUT_OF_BUSINESS; app updated 2026-09-12. Contested zombie |
| SEMPI | $108k (Antler) | AI resale optimization | OUT_OF_BUSINESS |
| Nifty, ResellKit, SmartLister, Kollectr, Dressd | Harmonic: no record | Cross-listers and trackers | Domains dead, parked or for sale |
| Flyreel | $19M pre-acquisition | AI computer-vision home scan | Sold to LexisNexis 2022; the "scan your house" exit lane is insurance and it already consolidated |
| StockX Portfolio (feature) | n/a | Sneaker portfolio tracking | Reported discontinued (single source). Portfolio tracking alone did not retain even with perfect price data |
Flyp is the whole argument. $15.8M raised, two technical ex-Mercari founders, four rounds, no priced round in over four years, and a homepage that now sells the product at zero. That is the revealed price of cross-listing. The companies that survived in the lane, List Perfectly, Crosslist and PrimeLister, never raised a dollar, and the biggest of them, Vendoo, took $125k of institutional money in its entire life after five years of paying reseller subscriptions. Moe charges $9.99/mo plus 4% on top of each marketplace's own take, into a lane where the best-capitalized player charges nothing.
Net: of Moe's paid bundle, only three pieces are not already free inside the platforms. The cross-marketplace layer itself (legal on eBay, gated on Depop, on Facebook only by terms violation), the portfolio framing (packaging, one feature flag from commoditization), and buyer-messaging agents (Meta shipped the sanctioned version; eBay contractually banned the unsanctioned one).
| Competitor | Funding (Harmonic) | iOS ratings | a valuation | b listing | c coverage | d price | e margin | f trust |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Vendoo | $125k pre-seed (YC W22) | 2,783 | better | same | worse | better on entry | worse | worse |
| List Perfectly | $0 | no iOS app | better | same | worse | better | worse | worse |
| Crosslist | $0 | 293 | better | same | worse | better | worse | worse |
| Flyp | $15.8M Series A | no US iOS app | better | same | worse | worse (free) | at best same | worse |
| SellRaze | $500k pre-seed (YC F25) | 39,616 | no evidence | same | same to worse | better | worse | worse |
| CollX (Collectr as reference) | $28.2M Series A ($0 Collectr) | 48,074 (Collectr 64,973) | worse | same | same | same | worse | worse |
| eBay Magical Listing | public | 4,969,091 | worse | same | worse | worse (free) | worse | worse |
| Facebook Marketplace and Seller app | public | inside Facebook | worse | same | worse | worse (free) | worse | worse |
| Depop | $99.6M, eBay-owned | 1,003,020 | better | same | same | worse | worse | worse |
| Mercari | $160.8M pre-IPO, public | 1,949,055 | better | same | worse | worse (free) | worse | worse |
| Poshmark Smart List | $480.2M, Naver-owned | 1,076,436 | better | same | worse | worse (free) | worse | worse |
| Google Lens and Apple Visual Intelligence | public | 5,086,827 (Google iOS app) | same at best | better (Lens does not list) | not applicable | worse (free) | worse | worse |
Where Moe wins today, on the evidence: one axis against one subgroup. Against the pure cross-listers (Vendoo, List Perfectly, Crosslist, Flyp) it is better on valuation because they do not value items at all, and better on sticker price against the $29+ power-seller tiers. That is the whole list of wins, and both erode: a seller doing more than about $25/mo of external GMV pays Vendoo less at the $8.99 tier once Moe's 4% is counted, and Flyp is free. The valuation edge over the marketplaces' native flows is a number of unproven accuracy, contradicted by the one partner who tested it, delivered where eBay and Facebook already suggest prices from better data than Moe can reach. On gross margin per user Moe is worse than all twelve: it is the only product in the set whose dominant cost, the daily LLM revaluation of every tracked item, scales with free usage. On distribution and trust it is worse than all twelve by two to six orders of magnitude.
Who already ships the whole Moe loop: SellRaze is the near-complete clone with 39,616 ratings to Moe's 12, and the 2026-09-15 sweep adds Hero, Reclaim and Flippr doing the same bundle. What none of them does is the daily-revalued portfolio of arbitrary items, and the funded evidence says that piece only works inside a single vertical with liquid transaction comps: CollX raised $28.2M in cards, Collectr holds 64,973 ratings on $0 of recorded funding, and horizontal "value everything you own" has never raised past pre-seed anywhere in this data. The bundle's other unique element, one-tap Facebook Marketplace posting, is the illegitimate leg.
What a user loses by deleting Moe and using free incumbent features: the portfolio screen with daily revaluation, and one app instead of three. That is all. Valuation is free and unlimited through Lens, Visual Intelligence or ChatGPT against 5 scans then $9.99. Listing is free and native on eBay, Meta's Seller app, Depop, Mercari and Poshmark. Cross-listing at power-seller volume is $8.99 at Vendoo or $0 at Flyp. The user also stops paying a 4% override on top of each marketplace's own take and stops running terms-violating automation through their personal Facebook account.
| Company | At the first institutional raise | The raise (Harmonic) | Outcome |
|---|---|---|---|
| Whatnot | Two marketplace-career founders, YC W20; Logan Head coded the livestream app in six weeks and the first stream sold $5K of Funko Pops in a few hours (ycombinator.com/blog/first-five-launches-with-whatnot, 2026-09-16) | Total $1.521B, 9 rounds; seed amount no record | $20.0B disclosed, $8B GMV in 2025 |
| Vinted | Founded 2008, Justas Janauskas wrote the code, grew free for five years; Accel led Jan 2013 at roughly 2M members (tech.eu, 2026-09-16) | Total $562.9M, 8 rounds; first round no record | $9.4B disclosed, profitable |
| Poshmark | Four cofounders: Manish Chandra had already sold Kaboodle to Hearst, plus two engineer cofounders; Mayfield led Feb 2011 before public launch (mayfield.com, 2026-09-16) | Total $480.2M, 8 rounds; first round no record | $1.2B M&A into Naver. The only pre-traction seed in the winners column, and it went to a repeat exited founder |
| Mercari | Shintaro Yamada had sold Unoh to Zynga; app launched July 2013 and passed 1M listings within a year | Total $160.8M pre-IPO; seed no record | IPO 2018, $2.39B disclosed |
| OfferUp | Nick Huzar, a prior CTO; 2011 to 2013 iterating to local liquidity before Jackson Square led Aug 2013 | Total $381.0M, 8 rounds | $1.0B ESTIMATED, headcount down to 332 |
| Depop | Simon Beckerman, a designer, not an engineer; the H-FARM incubator built the prototype over a year before the 2012 seed | Total $99.6M, 9 rounds; seed no record | $1.4B M&A into eBay |
| CollX | 600,000 registered users and 100M cards scanned at the seed announcement (techcrunch.com/2023/02/27/collx-raises-5-5m..., 2026-09-16) | Total $28.2M, 7 rounds; Series A $10M on 2025-03-07; $50M ESTIMATED | Alive, 3M+ users at the Series A |
| Flyp | Two ex-Mercari founders; at the NextView-led seed, thousands of consumers matched to pro resellers who had moved $250K+ of goods (nextview.vc, 2026-09-16) | Total $15.8M, 4 rounds; last priced 2022-05-31 | Alive, free, no priced round in 4 years |
| Beni | CEO plus technical cofounder Celine Mol as CTO; seed around the Aug 2022 extension launch | Total $7.1M over 6 tranched rounds; last $815k on 2026-03-24 | Alive, still seed-stage, CEO stepped down |
| SellRaze | Two founders, Jeff Mao and CTO Tyler Ma; at the YC F25 pre-seed the app was two years shipped with 39,579 iOS ratings, 200K+ users, 500K+ items listed (ycombinator.com/launches/OhK-sellraze, 2026-09-16) | $500k total, 2 rounds, PRE_SEED, last 2025-09-01; $2.0M ESTIMATED | Alive, the closest live peer |
| Sella | Concierge model, humans list and negotiate, flat fee per item | $3.0M, 1 round, SEED, 2022-08-09 | Alive, headcount 9, 2 to 3 week backlog, no follow-on in 4 years |
| Vendoo | Bootstrapped about five years to a working multi-marketplace SaaS with paying resellers before YC W22 | $125k total, 2 rounds; $625k ESTIMATED | Alive, headcount 39 |
| Encore (luxury) | University of Chicago team, founded 2023, AI luxury resale automation | $1.195M, 2 rounds, SEED 2024-06-17; $6M ESTIMATED | Dead inside about 18 months |
Moe's place on this table. Below every funded row, including the dead ones. Encore died with institutional backing and a team of three. SellHound died with $353k and a real prototype pipeline. The nearest living peer on the identical wedge has 3,300x Moe's rating count and 200x its user count, and was priced last September at $500k on a Harmonic-estimated $2.0M post. On a per-user basis the two asks are three orders of magnitude apart: about $10 per user at SellRaze, about $10,340 per user at Moe. On the team axis Moe sits below the graveyard rows, not just below the survivors, because Gone, Lovd, OneShop and SellHound all had engineering teams and still died.
The venture-scale outcomes in this market are all demand networks, never tools, and the tool lane has a hard ceiling in the same data (Flyp free after $15.8M; survivors on $0 to $125k). The graveyard sits in Moe's two lanes and is large. Every leg of the paid loop is already free inside the platforms Moe depends on. On this evidence the answer to the venture-scale question is no for a horizontal seller tool: the market pays zero for cross-listing, pays subscription-SaaS money only to bootstrapped operators, and reserves the billion-dollar outcomes for whoever owns the buyers.
Measured against the 12 closest live competitors, exactly one thing in Moe is not available elsewhere: the daily revalued portfolio of arbitrary items combined in one app with cross-listing. The feature matrix from the 2026-09-15 sweep shows no other app holding all three of arbitrary-item AI valuation, multi-marketplace cross-listing and portfolio revaluation, and the cross-listers confirm it from the other side, since Vendoo, List Perfectly, Crosslist, PrimeLister and Flyp do not value items at all. The problem is what the unique part consists of. Where "your stuff is a portfolio" has ever retained, it was vertical with liquid transaction comps. Moe's daily cron prices arbitrary objects by LLM plus web search, and the one Daxos partner who used it found it "did hallucinate on a bunch of stuff" [C2 12:30], so breadth is bought with accuracy the category's funded apps do not have to give up. The other differentiating leg, Facebook Marketplace, is not a product advantage but a compliance exposure, and Meta shipped the sanctioned version of the same flow free in March and July 2026. Against the only competitor with the identical wedge the measured gap is not close: 39,616 iOS ratings from a 2023-09-11 release against Moe's 12 from 2026-08-25.
Verified: 967 users, about 25 real payers implied by $249.75 estimated MRR, $175 of lifetime GMV across 5 orders, $20.60 of lifetime fees, all read off the founder's own dashboard in the Loom of 2026-09-11, plus 12 iOS ratings unchanged through 2026-09-16. Funded peers in this exact market had two to three orders of magnitude more at their first institutional check: CollX 600,000 users and 100M scans, SellRaze 200K+ users and 39,579 ratings, Vendoo roughly five years of paying subscriptions. The marketplaces were stricter still. Moe's commerce proof is $175, which in a market whose entire thesis is that items actually sell is the number that matters, and 5 orders in three weeks cannot be extrapolated. What is real and worth the point: 967 signups in about two weeks with zero marketing spend, consistent across the Loom, both calls and the dashboard.
Moe's own LLM ledger shows $355.59 of spend over 30 days against roughly $270/mo of revenue, so cost is about 142% of revenue and gross margin is negative today. The shape is worse than the level: 1,004 valuation.backfill calls at $0.2342 each, $235.16, is 66% of all spend, and that is the daily 8am cron revaluing already-scanned inventory [C2 50:38]. The dominant cost line scales with items tracked by all users while revenue scales only with the 2.6% who pay and the sliver of tracked value that ever sells. No competitor in the set carries that structure. The cross-listing SaaS survivors are flat-fee software with no per-item metered inference, which is exactly how List Perfectly and Crosslist live on $0 raised, and the marketplaces earn a transaction take that rises with the same GMV that drives their costs. Moe charges $9.99/mo plus 4% stacked on top of those same platform fees, so a Moe-originated eBay sale costs the seller about 17.6% plus the subscription, and the customer Moe says it wants, the heavy scanning collector with thousands of items, is its single worst account. It is fixable with ordinary engineering (cache valuations by product, revalue on price-move triggers instead of daily, cheaper backfill models, meter scans), and nothing in either call suggests the founder treats it as a problem: he presents the cost dashboard as a strength while claiming costs are "dropping 20-30% day over day" [Loom 01:04] over a chart rising to $62.80 in a day in the same frame.
Moe is a solo non-technical founder with no verifiable engineer. Harmonic's department split shows engineering 0, data 0, product 0 and design 0 against a recorded headcount of 12; no engineer has ever been named; the two named non-founder hires are both non-technical. A technical founder is close to universal among the funded companies in this market: Whatnot's Logan Head coded the livestream app himself in six weeks, Vinted's Justas Janauskas wrote the code, Mercari's Shintaro Yamada had already sold a games company to Zynga, OfferUp's Nick Huzar was a prior CTO, Flyp was founded by two ex-Mercari marketplace builders, SellRaze has CTO Tyler Ma, Beni has CTO Celine Mol, and Poshmark's non-engineer CEO was a repeat exited founder flanked by two engineer cofounders. The one non-engineer founder in the winners column had the H-FARM incubator writing his product for a year. Moe sits below the graveyard on this axis too, since Gone, Lovd, OneShop and SellHound all had engineering teams and still died, and the founder's claim to be "leading a lot of the other engineering pieces" [C2 06:10] rests on a finance BA, no engineering skills on his own LinkedIn and a GitHub account created 2025-12-31 with zero public repositories.
The inflation was refuted by his own documents inside five days: on 2026-09-10 he claimed 5,000 downloads, 3,500 users overnight and MRR "right around 10k" [C1 45:22, 50:35, 50:44]; on 2026-09-11 his own dashboard showed 967 users and $249.75; on 2026-09-15 he read "967 users, that was Friday" off the same dashboard without acknowledging the earlier number [C2 53:38]. He also sold a fabricated resume for a named third party, describing his data science lead as having "ran Data Science at DraftKings for the last five years and then three years of Nike" [C1 42:58] when the only matching person, Yagev Levi, is a May 2023 BU computer science graduate with about two years of IC time at DraftKings who works full time at another company in Tel Aviv (Apify LinkedIn pull, 2026-09-15). Two further items are undisclosed rather than inflated: he sued his prior employer and its US chief in federal court while citing that employer as pedigree (D. Colo. 1:24-cv-03084, judgment 2026-06-02), and he left two entities to lapse without winding them down. The background sweep found real clean ground, which is why this is 1.0 and not 0. Against the category this matters more than usual, because the funded comparables all sold verifiable counts (CollX's 600,000 users, SellRaze's 39,579 ratings) and the two claims that would most distinguish Moe from the graveyard, its user growth and its team, are precisely the two that failed verification.
Mean of the six parts is 1.50. Base is taken at 1.75. The quarter point above the mean credits what independently verified: a real shipped iOS app with polished UX, 967 signups in about two weeks with no marketing spend, honest cost instrumentation, candid answers on product limits, and stable round terms across both calls. It stays below 2 because the three parts that decide whether a company in this market survives, the category's revealed economics, commerce traction, and whether a technical team exists, are all bottom-decile, and because the one structurally unique feature depends on a Meta terms violation whose blast radius is the user's own account. The 0.25 adjustment is explicit and reversible; a reader who declines it lands at Company 3.50.
"3,500 users overnight yesterday," about 5,000 downloads, 200 to 300 users a day "all converting to pro" [45:22]; MRR "right around 10k" [50:44]; 70% download to subscription [50:33]; sell-through 15 to 20% in week one [45:35]; average item GMV $400 [46:29]; team of 7 "all based in the US" [09:16], every engineer 7+ years, average salary about $125k [52:50, 53:39]; DS/ML lead "ran Data Science at DraftKings for the last five years and then three years of Nike" [42:58]; eBay "signed agreements... they're done" [30:47]; "full end to end partnership with Meta currently right now" [29:59]; Mercado Libre signed, live early Q1 [32:53]; burn $20k/mo, 14 months runway; $700k of the $1M in.
Users became "967... that was Friday... just approaching 2,000 now" [53:38], his own refutation of 5,000, delivered as if the first claim had never been made. MRR was never mentioned again. The 70% became "starting a subscription path," free trial or paid [33:49]: same number, new denominator, unacknowledged. GMV $400 became "hovered around the same mark, which I think was right, 300" [54:07]. The all-US team became engineers in Spain at EUR 50k and EUR 90k [05:47 to 06:04], which breaks both the $125k average and the 7-years-minimum claim. New extraordinary claims replaced the fallen ones: churn "sub two and a half percent" [34:04] on a one-week beta, and 97% trial to paid [41:25], irreconcilable with a $249.75 billing panel. The seed narrative escalated to a16z, Lerer Hippeau, Khosla, Headline, Bling and True "circling," "term sheets this week" [01:13], while conceding "we don't have a term sheet obviously yet" [03:41]. Ownership went "I own 100" to "95" to employees at 0.5 to 1% each to a pool "10% max" [07:12 to 08:34]; it does not add up, and no cap table exists.
Smoothly, never defensively, across 140 minutes without irritation. The technique is redefinition and authority-borrowing: the 70% survives by changing its base; Meta risk is answered with an unnamed advisor's blessing and a claimed partnership; fundraise doubt is answered with six VC names, two of them mangled ("Jason Horowitz," "Larrey Hippo"). Questions with no good answer (DAU, asked directly at [53:13], the MRR update, items actually sold) get adjacent answers. The one candid lane is product limits: video scanning "basically crashes the phone... within 30 seconds" [58:26], tap-to-scan is "basically static photos" dressed up [59:18], the scanner misidentifies, churn will rise toward 10% [41:58]. Credibility is bimodal: believable on product, not on metrics, partnerships or money.
Verified: real person (LinkedIn, Harmonic 94373779, App Store seller, side-letter signatory). BA Finance, University of Denver 2014 to 2018; no technical education; GitHub account created 2025-12-31 with zero public repositories. T-Mobile about 1.5 years; Amazon 2 years (his own LinkedIn: Middle East, UAE, Saudi, Egypt, "$30M revenue"); PingPong Payments about 2 years (US employee 30, then head of sales North America); Sport IQ, a dead DTC cream brand with no exit; Yiftee advisor. Almost certainly the son of Michael Schutzler (ex-CEO of Classmates.com and Livemocha, WTIA CEO), co-governor of Erik's college LLC at the same Seattle address (WA registry 604083592), which explains the Seattle angel network.
Claimed against found: "4.5 years early-stage Amazon plus about 2 years at an Amazon subsidiary in APAC" [C1 07:48] when his own LinkedIn says 2 years, and PingPong is a Hangzhou payments company, not an Amazon subsidiary. Claimed country launches include Japan (launched Oct 2000, when he was about 4) and Turkey (before he joined). "I'm leading a lot of the other engineering pieces" [C2 06:10] is not credible against a finance degree and an empty GitHub.
Erik: "ran Data Science at DraftKings for the last five years and then three years of Nike before that" [C1 42:58], with 3 engineers under him [44:41]. The only matching person (linkedin.com/in/yagevlevi, Apify 2026-09-15): BA Computer Science, Boston University, May 2023; about 2 years of IC ML-infrastructure work at DraftKings; about 1.5 years of pre-graduation Nike co-op; MS at Georgia Tech in progress; currently "AI @ terra" (Terra Security, Tel Aviv), started about a month ago; no Moe anywhere on the profile. The claim assigns 8 years of department-head seniority to someone with about 3.5 total who works full time elsewhere. False as delivered.
Real (Harmonic 199300379, since July 2026). Claimed to have "built organic growth for three huge applications to number one in the App Store, including Hinge" [C1 43:49]. Her LinkedIn: Aavia plus fractional gigs (Dipsea, Rodeo, Ditto), no Hinge, no number-one apps. Likely fractional.
Sports social background (UFC, XFL, PitchBook), non-technical; the v1 LinkedIn pull showed the tenure end-dated 2026-09-01 while the Harmonic company record still lists the seat as current. Either way not an engineer.
Every surviving company in all three sub-categories had at least one technical founder writing the product, and most had two or three. Moe has none, and the one hire whose technical credentials were sold to Daxos has a fabricated resume. That is a below-graveyard position on the axis this market treats as table stakes.
Not a fraudster on the public record. Zero defendant-side lawsuits, no bankruptcy, no liens or UCC filings where searchable, nothing on OFAC, nothing at CFPB, BBB, Trustpilot or Ripoff Report, and an internally consistent identity (Eastside Catholic 2014, University of Denver 2014 to 2018, Seattle roots). One federal case ever, and he is the plaintiff with no counterclaim on the docket. The pattern of embellishment is confirmed, but the proof lives in his own pitch, not in court records.
| # | Check | Result | Source | Severity |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Federal courts, all districts (CourtListener v4, "Erik Schutzler") | Exactly 1 case, Schutzler v. PingPong, as plaintiff. Zero as defendant. Other Schutzler hits are unrelated people | courtlistener.com/api/rest/v4/search | INFO |
| 2 | Employer suit docket (RECAP 69410629) | Judgment entered 2026-06-02; content unknown without PACER | courtlistener.com/docket/69410629/ | MEDIUM nondisclosure |
| 3 | Bankruptcy | None | same | CLEAN |
| 4 | OFAC SDN (sdn.csv 5.69MB, grep) | 0 hits | treasury.gov/ofac/downloads/sdn.csv | CLEAN |
| 5 | SEC EDGAR full text | No filing by or naming Erik or Moe. No Form D for the claimed $700k. "Schutzler" hits are the father's companies | efts.sec.gov full-text search | HIGH raise unverifiable |
| 6 | Harmonic funding | funding_total 0.0, 0 rounds, investors [], VENTURE_UNKNOWN, legal name MARKET OF EVERYTHING, INC., Seattle, headcount 12 | Harmonic API | HIGH contradicts $700k |
| 7 | NY DOS corporate registry | NoEntityMatchFound for "MARKET OF EVERYTHING" and "SCHUTZLER". Not registered in NY | apps.dos.ny.gov | MEDIUM |
| 8 | WA registry | Schutzler Enterprises LLC, UBI 604083592, formed 2017-01-30, ADMINISTRATIVELY DISSOLVED 2019-06-03, governors Erik and Michael Schutzler. Full WA name search bot-gated | opengovwa.com/corporation/604083592 | LOW abandoned entity 1 |
| 9 | CO SOS open data | DealsDepot L.L.C., Denver, formed 2021-04-19, agent Erik Thomas Schutzler, DELINQUENT since 2022-09-01. Never disclosed | data.colorado.gov/resource/4ykn-tg5h.json | MEDIUM abandoned entity 2 |
| 10 | CO UCC liens | 0 filings | data.colorado.gov/resource/8upq-58vz.json | CLEAN |
| 11 | CO trade names | 0. Sport IQ had no registered CO entity or trade name | data.colorado.gov/resource/u7sb-g482.json | LOW ask |
| 12 | Sport IQ death | 14 Wayback captures to 2025-04-09, the last being Shopify's "store unavailable"; domain now dead. Quiet shutdown, no complaint trail | web.archive.org/cdx | CLEAN-ISH |
| 13 | CFPB complaints | 0 and 0 | consumerfinance.gov complaint API | CLEAN |
| 14 | BBB, Trustpilot, Ripoff Report, scam sites | Nothing on him or his brands | SERPs | CLEAN |
| 15 | App Store reviews | 9 reviews: 8 generic 5-stars within days of the 2026-08-25 launch, 1 detailed 1-star (2026-08-31) alleging "those are all paid" plus wrong valuations and broken cross-listing | itunes.apple.com RSS, id 6759468571 | MEDIUM astroturf pattern |
| 16 | Reddit, HN, Product Hunt, TikTok SERP | Zero organic community discussion of Moe anywhere. No scam chatter, and no genuine buzz either | SERPs | LOW silence contradicts the traction claims |
| 17 | Crowdfunding platforms | No campaigns ever, under any name or brand | SERP | CLEAN |
| 18 | FINRA BrokerCheck | No registration; none expected | brokercheck.finra.org | CLEAN |
| 19 | Glassdoor of PingPong | 3.0/5, 42% recommend, harsh culture reviews. Context only; nothing about Erik, and his suit generated zero press | glassdoor.com | INFO |
| 20 | Identity consistency | One LinkedIn only; Hudl and Baseball Northwest confirm Eastside Catholic 2014; middle name Thomas per the CO filing. No second or deleted profile | hudl.com, baseballnorthwest.com | CLEAN |
| 21 | The father | Michael Schutzler link near-certain via the co-governed LLC. No public record ties him to Moe as investor or advisor | wikipedia, wellfound | INFO conflicts scope |
| 22 | Podcast footprint | "Confessions of an Ex-Amazon Employee, PingPong Payments, EP 222" exists in SERP; content not retrievable. He markets himself as ex-Amazon | youtube.com | INFO |
Schutzler v. PingPong Global Solutions, Inc. and Kenny Tsang, D. Colo. 1:24-cv-03084-RMR, filed 2024-11-04, employment discrimination, Erik the sole plaintiff, jury demanded. Defendants answered 2025-01-06 with no counterclaim on the docket, which matters: PingPong did not accuse him of anything. Then a long discovery grind with five stipulated-looking extensions, sealed filings in April and May 2026, an attorney withdrawal granted 2026-05-08, and judgment entered 2026-06-02 (entry 57). No motion to dismiss, no summary judgment, no trial. That pattern is most consistent with a settlement reduced to judgment or an accepted offer of judgment, but the prevailing party and terms need PACER (about $3). Suing a former employer is not misconduct. The issue is that he cited PingPong as pedigree across 140 minutes of calls and never mentioned he sued them and their US chief, and that the judgment landed three months before he pitched Daxos.
What Daxos must ask directly: the PingPong judgment and why it was never mentioned; where Market of Everything, Inc. is incorporated, with the certificate; the $700k, with the Form D or signed closing docs and wire receipts; DealsDepot L.L.C. and Schutzler Enterprises LLC, what they were and why abandoned rather than dissolved; what legal entity operated Sport IQ and who owns the still-live Amazon listing; whether any App Store launch reviews were solicited or compensated; whether Michael Schutzler is an investor, advisor or LP in the SPV.
| Metric | Founder claimed | Dashboard, founder-controlled (Sep 11) | Independent |
|---|---|---|---|
| Users | 5,000 downloads; "3,500 overnight" [C1]; "approaching 2,000" [C2] | 967 (832 Free, 135 Pro tier), +573 that week, about 82/day | 12 App Store ratings, static through 2026-09-16; no Google Play; no press |
| MRR | "right around 10k" [C1 50:44] | $249.75 estimated MRR, exactly 25 x $9.99, so about 25 real payers. "136 active PRO subs" includes free grants (the METADAO code grants PRO forever) | none possible |
| Paid conversion | 70% [C1]; 97% trial to paid [C2] | 136/967 = 14% including grants; about 25/967 = 2.6% paying | n/a |
| GMV and sales | $400/item, then "300"; sell-through 15 to 20% week one | $175.00 lifetime GMV, 5 orders, $20.60 lifetime net fees, 104 active listings | n/a |
| "Inventory value" | n/a | $71,692.39 estimated, AI-guessed, not commerce; 131 failed jobs on the same panel | n/a |
| K-factor | 1.2 to 1.4 [Loom 01:35] | Invite codes: owner campaign, bound to waitlist emails, max uses 1, all minted Sep 11 between 9:18 and 11:53 AM. Waitlist conversion, not virality; mechanic ceiling K = 1.0, observed about 0.65 | claimed number impossible from the mechanic shown |
| Churn | "sub 2.5%" [C2 34:04] | Beta about one week old by his own admission. Not measurable | n/a |
| LLM cost | "dropping 20-30% day over day" [Loom 01:04]; "internal LLMs through open source models we've created" [Loom 00:55] | $355.59 over 30 days, 6,011 requests, 5,508 web searches, $0.0592 average; daily spend rising to a $62.80/day peak into Sep 11, claim and chart in the same frame. By call site: valuation.backfill 1,004 x $0.2342 = $235.16 (66%); valuation.estimate 273 x $0.2286 = $62.39; sonnet-vision 2,132 x $0.0211 = $44.91; market-estimate $5.17. Paid frontier API, not "own models" | n/a |
| Claim | Where | Verdict |
|---|---|---|
| 3,500 users overnight / 5,000 downloads | C1 45:22, 50:35 | CONTRADICTED own dashboard 967 the next day; own C2 "approaching 2,000" |
| MRR about $10k | C1 50:44 | CONTRADICTED dashboard $249.75. 40x. Worst discrepancy in the room |
| 70% download to sub; 97% trial to paid | C1 50:33 / C2 41:25 | CONTRADICTED 14% including grants, about 2.6% paying; base silently redefined |
| Sell-through 15 to 20% week one; average item $400 | C1 45:35, 46:29 | CONTRADICTED 5 lifetime orders, $175 GMV; memo: "list-through 10%, not sold" |
| Take rate "15 to 20%... at our 4% take rate" | C1 50:55 | SELF-CONTRADICTORY in one sentence; real 4% external / 8% native, verified in app |
| Team of 7 all US; $125k average; engineers 7+ years | C1 09:16, 52:50 | CONTRADICTED C2: Spain, EUR 50k and EUR 90k; zero engineers verifiable |
| DS/ML lead "ran DraftKings DS 5 years + 3 Nike" | C1 42:58 | FABRICATED Yagev Levi, BU May 2023, full time at Terra Security |
| Growth lead built Hinge to number one | C1 43:49 | CONTRADICTED Janice Cheng: Aavia plus fractional, no Hinge |
| eBay "signed agreements done"; Depop and Vinted partnerships; Meta partnership; Mercado Libre signed | C1 30:28 to 33:02 | CONTRADICTED / OVERSOLD memo: self-serve APIs, no partnerships, no Meta relationship |
| Amazon 4.5 years plus an APAC subsidiary; launched JP/SG/TR | C1 07:48 | CONTRADICTED own LinkedIn: 2 years, Middle East; PingPong is not an Amazon subsidiary |
| "Own visual-recognition models / internal open-source LLMs" | C1 11:46, Loom 00:55 | CONTRADICTED ledger dominated by sonnet-vision plus paid valuation calls |
| LLM costs dropping 20-30% per day | Loom 01:04 | CONTRADICTED same screen: rising to $62.80/day |
| K-factor 1.2 to 1.4 | Loom 01:35 | REFUTED single-use company-minted waitlist codes; ceiling 1.0; observed about 0.65 |
| Credentials "hashed so we can't even access it" | C1 26:04 | INCOHERENT replay agents must recover credentials |
| Churn sub 2.5% | C2 34:04 | VERBAL-ONLY one week of data; expects about 10% later |
| $700k committed | C1 49:17, C2 51:29 | UNVERIFIABLE Harmonic $0; no Form D; no SAFE stack |
| a16z, Lerer Hippeau, Khosla, Headline, Bling, True circling; "term sheets this week" | C2 00:33 to 01:29 | UNVERIFIABLE concedes no term sheet [03:41]; mangles the firms' names |
| Ownership 100 then 95; employees 0.5 to 1%; pool 10% or less | C2 07:12 to 08:34 | SELF-CONTRADICTORY no cap table |
| Depop "Etsy $1.2B 3 years ago"; TCGplayer "$400M shuttered"; OfferUp "about $1B revenue"; Whatnot "$20B?" | C1 and C2 | LOOSE Etsy 2021 about $1.6B; eBay 2026 is the $1.2B; TCGplayer about $295M and operating; OfferUp unsupported |
| "Preliminary data room" | C1 68:02 | CONTRADICTED a one-pager plus a 3-minute Loom |
| Zero marketing spend | C1, C2, Loom | PLAUSIBLE-UNVERIFIED consistent across tellings |
| App real and well-designed; pricing; beta about Sep 7; daily cron | n/a | VERIFIED App Store 6759468571, 2026-08-25, 4.33 stars from 12 ratings; pricing in app; cron C2 50:43 |
| eBay buying Depop (about $1.2B, Feb 2026) | C1 30:51 | VERIFIED cuts both ways: the acquirer of last resort owns a listing rail and ships the feature free |
Instrument: $1M post-money SAFE, $10M post cap, 10% discount, MFN (verbal, C1 [49:12]; the memo adds a 1x cash-out floor). The SAFE was sent to Daxos after call 1 but is not in the data room, so nothing here verifies cap, discount, MFN, floor or governing law from a primary instrument. About $700k claimed committed, about $300k open.
Side letter (Pro Rata and Investor Rights Agreement, read in full): pro rata into the priced round; participation in any earlier or subsequent convertible up to the pro rata percentage; Major Investor designation on a commercially reasonable efforts standard; quarterly unaudited P&L, balance sheet and KPIs within 45 days plus annual financials and a quarterly cap table on request; a QSBS covenant; a capitalization rep (section 6 reps that a cap table was delivered, which it was not); free assignment to affiliates and SPVs. Genuinely good rights for an angel check. Not signed: both signature blocks blank, date "September ___, 2026," despite the _EXECUTION filename. No board seat, no observer, no vetoes, so the rep is the only enforcement lever.
| Company | What it raised (Harmonic) | Valuation (Harmonic) | What it had |
|---|---|---|---|
| SellRaze | $500k, 2 rounds, PRE_SEED, closed 2025-09 | $2.0M ESTIMATED | Identical wedge, 39,579 iOS ratings, 200K+ users, technical CTO |
| Vendoo | $125k lifetime institutional | $625k ESTIMATED | 5 years of subscription revenue before the check |
| OneShop | $125k (YC S21) | $625k ESTIMATED | Working product; Harmonic now marks it OUT_OF_BUSINESS |
| Closo | $800k total | no record | Working AI cross-listing service, team of 5 |
| Encore (luxury) | $1.195M, 2 rounds | $6M ESTIMATED | Institutional cover; dead within about 18 months |
| Sella | $3.0M, 1 round, SEED 2022 | no record | Working concierge service; no follow-on in 4 years |
| CollX | $28.2M, Series A $10M 2025-03-07 | $50M ESTIMATED | 3M+ users at the Series A; 600K users and 100M scans at seed |
| Moe (ask) | $1M | $10M post cap | 967 users, about 25 payers, $175 lifetime GMV, 12 ratings, negative margin, no verifiable engineer |
Moe's ask is roughly 5x the estimated post the market set last September for the better-executed identical product, above Sella's entire $3.0M seed round, and nearly twice the estimated post of the company in this lane that died. Per user the two asks are three orders of magnitude apart: about $10 per user at SellRaze, about $10,340 per user at Moe. The distance from a defensible cap is 3x to 5x. The exit math compounds it: the only billion-dollar outcomes here went to demand networks, and the tool lane's realized outcomes are Flyp giving the product away, Paperclip and MAGPIE acquired quietly, and FOBO's small 2015 exit.
No Form D for a claimed $700k Reg D raise, which is late, unfiled, or evidence the money has not closed; each is a different problem. Entity unverified: no charter, no good standing, no state registration findable in NY or WA, Delaware captcha-walled. Cap table never delivered despite the section 6 rep. Employee equity is handshake-stage, since "I own 100" and a promised 10% pool cannot both be true unless the grants are unissued, which means no adopted plan, no vesting, no 83(b), and a pool still to be created that dilutes Daxos at the seed. The prior SAFE stack is opaque, so both the MFN check and the section 2 participation right are blind. IP is unassigned as far as the room shows: engineers in Spain, no PIIAs, no proof the company owns its code.
What to ask for before any wire (items 1 to 3 are the gate; a founder whose numbers are real produces them in a day): countersigned SAFE and side letter with terms read from the instrument; the cap table section 6 already promises plus every outstanding convertible and side letter; wire confirmations for the $700k and the Form D or counsel's written explanation of its absence; certificate of incorporation, good standing and board consents; equity plan, founder stock purchase agreement and 83(b) elections; signed IP assignments from every engineer and contractor including Spain; read-only Stripe or RevenueCat reconciled against the $10k MRR claim; the OfferUp advisor's name and agreement.
PASS. Company 3.75 / 10 (Base 1.75 + EV 1.00 + Geo 1.00 + Chain 0.00). FOR DAXOS 1.5 / 10. Do not execute the SAFE, at any check size, at this cap.
The honest bull case: a real shipped app with about 967 genuine signups in two weeks on zero marketing spend, a founder with real marketplace GTM history and unusual candor about product limits, cost telemetry most seed founders do not have, and a large secondhand backdrop with a live strategic acquirer. Why it still fails: the market it is in has produced venture-scale outcomes only for demand networks, priced cross-listing at zero, and buried about a third of its funded tool and valuation companies; the funded peers on the identical wedge carried 200K to 600K users at their first institutional check while Moe carries 967 and $175 of commerce; the team the premium rests on does not exist as described; the unit economics are negative by design and presented as a strength; and the load-bearing integration violates Meta's terms with users' accounts as collateral.
If items 1, 4, 6 and 8 all clear, the right posture is a small relationship check at the re-anchored cap, not a full position.
Net: the 3.75 company score and 1.5 fit sit where the consumer distribution says they should, below TextSidekick and Fictura and far below Verso.